Shroud of Turin Used to Create 3-D Copy of Jesus - YouTube
Paul Wilson
Protestant (only to show I don’t follow the pope)
Independence MO USA
Sunday, March 31, 2019
"Beware the Shroud of Turin" one christian stopped talking to me after this post from apr 21 2018
Below is a video concerning the shroud of Turin. Interestingly it say the man of the shroud was 5’ 11” and that is 6” taller than most in Jesus time and it says the man had a regal and majestic look. Well Isaiah tells me about the messiah, which is Jesus, Isa 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. Doesn’t sound like a man half a foot taller than most with a regal and majestic look. Not that Jesus was ugly just that he was plain and ordinary looking he looked just like the average jew at that time. This image and explanation should show the shroud is a fake relic either it is a complete fake made to fool people of it was a burial cloth but one that was of a different man and was used to fool christians. Beware of frauds and put your faith in the BIBLE not any relic or supposed relic.
"We are stopping ourselves because true discipleship is too hard. We stopped be effective long ago." from apr 20 2018
This was sent to Dr. Michael Brown website https://askdrbrown.org/(with a few minor additions):
In your article you mentioned <<Who’s stopping pastors from speaking freely from the pulpit? I’m not talking about endorsing political candidates. I’m talking about addressing abortion and LGBT activism and racial division and more. Who’s stopping us from being socially and culturally relevant?>>
We stopped being socially and culturally relevant since at least the turn of the 20th century probably decades before. Why did we check out of the culture?? Many possibilities. Some thought we should only focus on wining souls and not worry about politics and government and culture as the world is not our home we are citizens of heaven and so we should be focused on spiritual things not temporal things.We shouldn't dirty our hands with the things of this world.Some believe that we can‘hasten the Lord's return’(2Peter 3:12) by letting society go to pot.The sooner society crashes the soon Jesus returns to set up his kingdom.(I have actually had someone write me about this when I was encouraging the christians I knew years back to write the boys scouts and tell them not to allow gay scouts in. The person thought I shouldn't bother because gay scouts getting in would 'hasten the Lord's return' and that we are told in scripture to 'hasten the Lord's return' and so we shouldn't fight the downward spiral of society. He even said in his email "Go Homos Go!”).Perhaps it was because we wanted to be loved by people we decided that if we compromise they will love us and if the love us they will become christian. Whatever the reason we disengaged and society plummeted.
The 60s were a major problemwe decided the only way to reach the young people was to imitate the world and should how 'hip and cool' we were and that they could still be 'hip and cool' and be christian they just had to add Jesus to their lives. We coopted the devils music and 'claimed it for Christ' so they could still rock out just to use Jesus in their lyrics to just add vitamin J to your daily routine and you can stay the same. Jesus loves you right now so he doesn't need you to change just add him to your lives. It reminds me of the old packaging"just add water" we wanted them to "just add Jesus". Wedidn’t do, and aren'tdoing, them any favors acting like the worldbecausethey didn't change, and aren’t changing, to conform to Christ they stay the same because we have conformed, and are conforming, Christ to them.
We are supposed tobe set apart from the worldin our actions and in or mannerisms but looking around all I see is a churchtrying desperately to look and act as much like the worldas possible.Many churches have programs they offer that are just worldly programs but offered in the church building.We try to compete with the world buton IT'S terms not ours.We don't show thatChrist has a better waybut thathis way is the worlds way but with a few christian words and phrases added in.Like 'can I get a Hallelujah???' and 'Praise the Lord'.Wetalk the talkbut we do it whilewalking like the world.We(the church as a whole) take pride in the number of people we convert to the Lord but when we teach them they can stay like the worldly people they are just add Jesus to their worldly lives and say some prayers now and then how can we truly say they are converted.2 and 1/3 Billion CALL themselves christianI venturethe true number isat most 850 millionand I thinkTHAT is being generous! I wouldn't be at all surprised if thereal number is between250 and 500 Million!
Who is stoping pastors from speaking out??Themselves that is who.Ifthey start speaking out and TRULY preaching the bible they will lose a lot of their flock.That mean the offering plates get as empty as the pews.Mammonis importantto many a preacher and evenmore important is EGO. Having a large flock is a big ego boost. (kind of like a carnal man and the size of his penis [you should see the size of my flock]).Butwhat goodis having alarge flock if most or all are unsaved????I am sure the Lord would be more thrilled with the preacher whose church only has10 parishionersbutall 10 are savedthen with the preacher ofa 1000+ parishioner mega churchwhoonly has 10 people saved.Imagine how many people would leave if the churchthrew out all worldly influences?? Especially the rock and heavy metal???Talk about an Exodus! One person I talked to about how rock etc was the devils music and we shouldn't be using it and just use our hymns and gospel and spirituals and existing religious music said it that was all there was he would kill himself. I don't think he literally would but obviously the rock and stuff mean so much that without it christianity wasn't worth anything to him.THAT is what is keeping them in church!!NOT the gospel NOT the love of Christ it isthe LOVE of worldly music, albeit with christian words and phrases, that they come for. It isthe worldly atmosphere they come forand theyjust accept the sprinkling of Jesusthat is added to it.Remember Jesus saidnarrow is the wayand straight the gate that leads to salvation andFEWwould find it. Well 2 and one third billion is not few.That is many. And what did he say about the path with many??? That the path with many would bewide and lead to destruction.How many pastors have marched people down the wide path for the sake of a few dollars???30 pieces of silverseems to be quite attractive these days!
How many how call themselves christian refuse to get involved because they are afraid?? Being liked has become so important to christians they go with the flow even when they know the flow is in the wrong direction so the world will see how kind and loving and nice they are.We are afraid to get involved in someone else's life when we see them headed to hell but how many seeing a person they don't even know drowning would just walk away????It is the same thing. While yes hell is not the physical death like drowning it is death.Do we can more about a persons physical life than we do about their very soul???
Another problem is we love our family so much that when oneannounces they are part of a en vouge sinwe decide to change our minds about that sin rather than help change them to be what Christ wants them to be. We would ratherrewrite the bible and put words in God's mouththan risk the lost of a family relationship.How many a christian has had the biblical belief on homosexualityonly to "evolve" their beliefonce a son or daughter or other closebelovedfamily member comes out as gay???Or how many of us decideGod made our precious son a girl in a boys bodysimply because he is our son and I want to show him I love him and I don't want to hurt his feelings. Transgendered people are essentially saying'God made a mistake'because they have a boys soul in a girls body or vice versasince God puts us together in our mothers wombs he puts the soul with the body so if the wrong soul is in the wrong body the only conclusion is 'God made a mistake'.They try to deny they mean this but it is the only conclusion that would fit the facts.
Christians need toclean house. We must remove ALL worldly influences from the church.That means CCM, that means the endless programs (sex gods way and all the programs having nothing to do with God or the christian perspective on life), the paganism (YoGod yoga etc), That means the interfaith breakfasts that include non-christian faiths, the prosperity Gospel, all worldly things must be jettisoned and we must return to the bible. We can look at some ofthe best of the old preachers to help.Whitfield, Spurgeon, Edwards,Finney, and others.
While I agree the gifts of the spirit are for today tooI think there is too big a emphasis in some circles on tongues and that is can turn people away from knowing Christ. Not all have the gift of tongues not all who are filled with the Holy Spirit will speak in tongues so we should not be so adamant that someone speak in tongues before using the gifts God has given them to help the church.(As a asideon pentecost the disciples did talk in tongues but they were languages that existed on earth as seen by the fact people knew what was being said.Nowhere do it suggest that there is some kind of heavenly language or language of God or language of angels out there that only with the help of the Holy Spirit can you speak.It is this belief that allows people to fake tongues by speaking gibberish. Tongues exist but are real languages.) Plus how many who insist on tongues follow the biblical protocol that if speaking in public in tongues, i.e. not alone, one must have a interpreter or be silent??? How many are prideful about their speaking in tongues??? Or even believe you aren't saved if you don't speak tongues??
Once we get back to theTRUE faith based on the BIBLE not based on MANthen we will be bold and speak out when we are to speak and be willing to accept the consequences of that speech. Only then we we be willingto take up our cross and go to our deathsrather than cave in a please man. I feartoo few today would be willing to die for the bibleand all too many would be willing todrop Christ like a stone to save their miserable hides.
Maybe the one thing the church in the westneeds more than anything is REAL persecution.Not being banned on twitter. Not being 'unfriended' on facebook. Not being shamed in a class at college or high school or even middle or elementary school. Maybewhat we need is to be facing torture and death for our beliefs. Maybe then we will see who is one of Christ's flock and who is just a wolf in sheeps clothing.Maybe then we will be able to stand tall and fearless and go forth and preach to all he world.We might then havetrue 'fearless girls'and fearless boys and fearless men and fearless women. We might finally as the world puts it 'grow a pair'.
I think the one thing that willwake up the American churchis agood dose of JUDGMENT!A Good EMP followed with a Chemical, Biological, or Nuclear attack would set us back 150 years or more and mean we would have to rely on each other. It would also many many deaths(Upwards of90% of the populationin thefirst year for a EMPalone)(Maybe more if a Chemical or Biological attack were involved or the fallout from a Nuclear attack). Quite a judgment.Yet it would give the church a chanceto walk boldly and rely on Godand peach to the dying and get many souls into heaven.
As for Europe and Australiait is time tostand with God or stand with allah. They must realize that you can not do bothbecause Yahweh is NOT allah!It will mean dying for Christ in many casesbut if we aren't willing to do that then we are not truly christian.THATis truly totake up ones cross and follow himsince the cross was a means of death thenand unfortunately also is now in several islamic countries. Though I think if I found myself facing death in a islam country I would prefer to be crucified and know what the Lord went through than to get a simple beheading.
Paul Wilson
Protestant (only to show I don’t follow the pope)
Independence MO USA
"If man will not be governed from within, he must be governed from without."
"has anyone recently made ..." from apr 8 2018
international phone calls I have questions regarding how easy it is?? is it true you have to wait for a line in the country you are calling to be available and that you can only have a limited time on your call because of the limited lines??? or can you call whenever you want for however long you want??? I am in the USA. Take for instance I wanted to call China or Japan or Israel or Germany or Russia or Australia would I be able to do this with ease or would I have to wait for an available line and only be able to talk a few minutes?? Someone once told me that you have to wait for a line and you can’t talk very long but given the persons age and that I dont know when they last made a international call it could be things have changed and he is just unaware that the calls are not that difficult anymore.
Paul
"on my new Jerusalem numbers and the sea" from apr 6 2018
well on the numbers they are simply guess as to how many people would be in heaven and when the would have gotten there:
The first category kids raptured would cover all kids under the Age of Accountability, roughly 13 but depending on the child could be a few years earlier or later, that go in the rapture christian and NON christian;
The second is all the kids that have been aborted or miscarried since the beginning of the 20th century;
The third dead since creation count all righteous and under that age of accountability dead till now and would include any miscarriages this number will be mostly children as most deaths over time have been under the age of 12 much of those under 8;
The fourth is the tribulation saints, those who come to christ in the Tribulation and are martyred, given the amount dying in judgment and that many left will be against God I place this one at 1 Billion max simply because I think there will probably be about
3 billion left after judgment and I think that 1/3 is about the most you are going to get that will come to christ and be martyred of the remaining 2 billion I would imagine that probably less than 100 Million or less than .1 Billion would actually survive
and enter the MK and even THAT number might be generous;
The fifth and final category is Christians raptured it is my guess as to the number of christians being raptured I base this on 2.33+ Billion people claiming christianity and a guess at how many actually are even in this I believe I am being generous with .85
Billion or 850 Million people. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if that number is 3-6 times bigger than the actual number (straight is the gate and FEW that find it).
I categorized them to show from where I would get the numbers for the NJ.
As for the SEA in the ancient greek their were 2 words to talk of seas the one word (Pelagos) is for DEEP seas and is used of oceans, like the Atlantic, and the other (Thalassa), the one used in the Rev. 21 passage, is used of smaller or shallower seas such as the Mediterranean which is termed "sea contrasted with land” basically a small sea mostly or totally surrounded with land. I mentioned it because many people have been taught there will be no OCEANS in the new earth but they are going on the english word sea and taking it at it’s broadest meaning. But in the Greek it would at most mean no more small/shallow seas like the Mediterranean, Red, Black, Galilee, etc. In fact the word used meaning small sea is specifically used of the Mediterranean Sea and also of the Red Sea so it is possible that only one of these is meant. Even the Mediterranean Sea is made up of various seas, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_Sea#Subdivisions (if the whole Mediterranean is gone the new space could make up new nations or extensions of current ones), and it could pertain than to one or more of these. (see attached pics). I wanted to show that the Oceans WILL still be in the New Earth but MAYBE some of the smaller seas will not. There is one other possibility sea has often be used in the bible to describe the gentile/heathen/pagan nations and in the new earth the will be only believers not heathens or pagans.
I included the page from Blue Letter Bible from Richard C. Trench’s synonyms mainly to show this was not some fanciful Idea of my own comes from a respected teacher in the bible community. I have added a bit to what he said as a possibility of what could be entailed by this separation of the types of seas but the basic idea comes from him. Some people don't think someone my age believe don’t know much and thus ignore what is said by me so I try to include known names in Christendom to get those people to at least think about what I say. Joseph Hall once wrote "there are beardless sages, and grey-headed children”. I have also heard it expressed as “There are many beardless sages and quite a few old fools!”
The inhabitants of the sea is likely talking about the people in the gentile nations of the world.
Paul Wilson
"If man will not be governed from within, he must be governed from without."
Begin forwarded message:http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2018/gino41-1.htmGino (1 Apr 2018)
"RE: Paul Wilson: 03.25.18: sea"
Paul, I had read your letter, back on the 4th, and then again on the 25th, when you linked to it again. The first part of that letter, was a little easier to understand. I really enjoyed the street comparison of asphalt & concrete here, with the pure gold there! Although I wasn't able to figure out all the different variations on the numbers: e.g. "billion dead since creation": 34.32, 33.10, 48.26, and 48.31 I would like to know what those variations imply. However, the second part, about the sea/seas, was extremely deep & over my head (no pun intended). I do not speak or read ancient Greek, nor German, and I have forgotten much Latin (i.e. maris aequor). It would be like reading a newspaper which keeps changing the language, and sometimes using Cyrillic & Chinese characters. While I was reading it, at a certain point, the comprehension fuse blew, and then I was unable to figure any of it out. I know you don't normally write like that, and that you were simply showing something from the blueletterbible.org. So, could you please do me a favor, and explain that part about the sea/seas, only in English? Thank you in advance
"America, Trump, the Church , and the Election" from march 25 2018
I wrote this in May of 2016 and now a year plus into trumps presidency I thought it worth mentioning again.
<<<<Subject: For The Church It Might Be Better if Hilary Wins Date: March 10, 2016 - When G.W. Bush won in 2000 the church seemed to go to sleep as we had “Our” man in the white house so everything was considered to be A-ok. But MUCH damage was done under his presidency setting the stage for Obama to do even more. We have been VERY much awake under Obama and I fear if we get a republican president we may very well slip back into slumber and allow the nation to slip farther into hell. With a Hilary presidency we would be awake and praying and doing all we can. America would still be destroyed in judgment but we would be blameless (Eze 33:2-6; 2 Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman: 3 If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people; 4 Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head. 5 He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul. 6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.) America cannot escape the fire that awaits her at the end of her journey the only question will be will her blood be on OUR hands or solely on the hands of those whose sins brought the judgment??? Maybe by seeing evil without it’s Christian conservative cloak on is just what the church needs to be effective in these final days of America.>>>
From what I see the church has fallen asleep again just as with W Bush. She is expecting Trump to do it at and change America back to a Godly nation. That our revival will spread like wildfire FROM DC to the rest of the nation. She is still searching for a POLITICAL solution to a SPIRITUAL problem. This SPIRITUAL cancer America has will not be cured by treating the POLITICAL symptoms. Treating a headache caused by a brain tumor does NOT get rid of the tumor. WE must change America. WE must MAGA! The church wanted a reprieve and prayed to get trump and instead of using that reprieve to launch a D-Day style offensive against the enemy we have simply gone back to bed to wait for trumps reelection. Nothing has changed with our reprieve we are just as unengaged as before but now we will have to answer as to why we asked for a reprieve then did nothing. If Hilary had been elected America could have been judged by now and what was left could have turned to him instead America is still here, still hasn’t turned to him, and is going to get judged even worse for squandering this opportunity.
I don’t know what else to say. We keep expecting government to lead the revival effort when we should be leading that effort. We have learned nothing from history and nothing from ancient Israel. Santayana was right “those who forget history are doomed to repeat it”. Ancient Israel was judged and ceased to be among the nations and we soon shall follow. I was afraid a republican presidency would be the worst thing for those fighting for a return to God and I was right. The Church is asleep on the lap of the republican party. She is a lap dog now. She does what she is told to do when she is told to do it. Worldly power is all that matters to her. She is OF the world now not just IN the world.
<<<<I have a very strong feeling that AFTER judgment at least most of whatever is left of America will experience a revival, a third great awakening, but society needs judgment to wake it up to the need for Christ. America will never again be a force on the world stage but we, Americans left after judgment (I think judgment and rapture will be very close in timing so true Christians will be raptured out soon after but many non-christian and CINO (like the Laodiceans and Sardisians and Thyatirans) Americans will still be here) would be able to help ourselves survive till the second coming.>>>>
Paul Wilson
barbwire article "POPPING THE CHRISTIAN BUBBLE" with highlights fair use from march 10 2018
Highlighting and emphasis added.
I know there are many out in the world who are in these bubbles. Including much christianity here in America.
Paul
POPPING THE CHRISTIAN BUBBLE
by Rob Pue on 6 March, 2018
How are things going for you in your life as a Christian? How is your walk with Christ? What, exactly, does that look like in day-to-day life? What — for you — does “Christianity” consist of?
I ask these questions because so many church-goers seem to be living in what I call a “Christian bubble.” We seem to be increasingly isolated within the four walls of our church buildings. Regular church-attenders and pastors alike have become so intimidated by the ever-increasing anti-God bias of our modern American culture. So much so, that we choose to just keep our mouths shut, keep our faith to ourselves.
In the past, I’ve described it this way: as the LGBT movement has been embraced and emboldened with the support of corporate America, the media, the government, the public school systems, and even the churches, unrepentant sodomites have “come out of the closet,” pridefully waving rainbow flags and celebrating their sin, while Christians have been perfectly content to take up residence inside those same “closets,” too afraid to speak up, stand out or even question the abominations raging throughout our land.
I dare say, Christianity has become all about us. We go to church on the weekend, and for most, that is the extent of our Christianity. some of us read the Bible on our own at home, but not very many. Some of us also have a regular prayer time, but not very many. These things are all well and good, but there’s just one problem: living this way is not biblical! You see, the Christian life is not supposed to be all about us and our needs. We are not just supposed to be feeding our souls — we are supposed to be winning other souls, discipling them, and teaching them all Jesus commanded. We are supposed to be the Salt and Light of the Earth. But we’re not. Even if we do pray — and a surprisingly low number of professing Christians make this a priority — we pray in error; usually asking God for only those things that affect us, only those things that we feel we need. Instead of praying, “Thy will be done,” we thank the Father for His provision, and then proceed to ask for more and more and more… but sadly, usually, only for our own personal needs and wants.
Equally disturbing is this notion that Christians are to have nothing to do with the things of this world. We are told by our pastors and church leaders to stay out of “politics,” to stay out of controversy, to mind our own business, to focus all of our attention, give all of our tithes and offerings only to the church. It is continuously drilled into our heads that we’re to have nothing to do with anything outside the four walls of our meeting places. This is so unbiblical, I can barely believe we have bought into such lies. Yet it is the prevailing practice in nearly every church I know of.
Just ask your Pastor if you would be allowed to announce a gathering of church folks at the local abortion center, to stand in the gap for the voiceless, preborn babies about to be torn limb from limb in their mothers’ wombs. Ask your pastor if you can recruit others from your church to go to a schoolboard meeting and protest the pro-LGBT curriculum being used to indoctrinate your children. Ask your pastor if you might use a room of the church on a special night to show a documentary about the evil agenda of the socialists, liberals, feminists, and muslims seeking to throw God out of every corner of America. I already know the answer: “Sorry, no. We can’t get involved in things like that.” And then the church leadership will begin to view you as a “right wing wacko,” and start seeking ways to marginalize you. They’ll tell others to avoid you. They will secretly laugh at you behind your back, because you are so radical, so “counter-cultural.”
But I have news for you: our Savior, was the most radical, and the most counter-cultural Person to ever walk the face of the Earth. And he Himself gave us commands to follow, most of which we know about, but most of which are never preached on nor taken seriously — except of course, the ever-popular out-of-context, misinterpreted “Judge Not,” which sadly, even our Christian leaders are now teaching as the “Whole Counsel of God.”
Turn to Matthew 5. Jesus said, “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt has lost his savor, wherewith shall it be salted? It is henceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out and to be trodden under the feet of men.” He was speaking to His disciples here. Those who truly were — in every sense of the word — Christ followers. He told them they were the salt of the Earth. In this passage, Jesus was explaining a concept in terms His followers could understand. In those days, “salt that had lost its savor” really only had one possible use: it was used, literally, as pavement on roads. They paved the roads with otherwise useless salt. So it really was trodden under the feet of men.
There are many translations of the Bible, and some say “…if the salt has lost it’s savor…” But in the original text, Jesus actually said, “…if the salt has lost His savor…” This makes quite a difference. Because He wasn’t just talking about table salt here. He was talking about people. We, as Christians, are to be salty! We are to have savor! If we don’t, Jesus said, we are literally good for nothing in the Kingdom of God!
Likewise, Jesus continued by saying, “You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick, and it gives light to all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father which is in heaven.”
So unless I am grossly misinterpreting this, Jesus specifically told His disciples, in one of His most important teaching times, that His followers were to be the salt and the light of the world. We are not to lose our savor and we are not to hide our light. Why would He teach these things, if in reality, He meant for us to hide inside the four walls of our church and never even attempt to impact the culture around us? Never ever get involved in the things outside our churches? Never ever speak of Jesus’ commands or stand up for God’s Word and truth when sin is pridefully celebrated and normalized, and the doctrines of demons taught to our children and grandchildren as “the new normal?!”
My friends, we live — most of us — inside a “Christian bubble.” Most of us know nothing about the horrific abominations going on outside our churches, nor do most of us care. We occupy ourselves with vain religion, with ritualistic “praise and worship.” But if we are not engaging the culture… if we are not being salt and light to a lost, deceived and dying world all around us, all our “praise and worship” is useless. In fact, the very form of “Christianity” we practice has, today, become “good for nothing but to be thrown out and trampled on by men.” And so why are we surprised that Christianity no longer has a “voice” in America? It’s simple: we never open our mouths!
What was the message of John the Baptist, as he made way for the start of Jesus’ work here on earth? “Repent!” And what was Jesus’ first message when He began His earthly ministry? You got it: “Repent!” Jesus also gave the Great Commission at the end of Matthew 28: “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost; teaching them to observe all things wheresoever we commanded you.” This “Great Commission” is also recorded in Acts 1: “You shall receive power after the Holy Ghost has come upon you, and you shall be witnesses unto Me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost parts of the Earth.” He said all these things as His final instructions to His followers, and then ascended into Heaven.
But my friends, we have been taught — most of us all our lives — to misinterpret these commands of Christ. We have been taught that the Great Commission means we are to 1) either give money to overseas missionaries, or 2) to go overseas and feed the poor, dig wells and build houses. Again, these are not bad things to do, but it’s not what Jesus commanded.
In Matthew 28, He commanded us to teach everyone to observe all He had commanded. So did He actually mean the exact opposite? That we are to keep our mouths shut and never speak out against evil, never talk about sin and the need for repentance, but rather to be loving, accepting, “open and affirming” of sin, lest we offend someone who may be pridefully embracing and celebrating their sin? And when He said we are to be His witnesses, He put it this way: “first in Jerusalem, then in all Judea, then in all Samaria, and then to the uttermost parts of the Earth.” So did Jesus actually mean the exact opposite?
Did He mean we are to first go to the uttermost parts of the Earth and do service projects, all the while neglecting our personal “Jerusalems?” And what is “Jerusalem” to us? It is our home town. First, He said, we go to our home town. Then we go to our state, then we go to our nation, and lastly, we go to the ends of the Earth. If we do not have the courage to be salt and light in our own home towns, we have no business going on a tropical vacation disguised as a missions trip. Sorry to sound harsh here, and I do not mean to downplay the vital work of those saving lives in foreign lands. Certainly the missionaries that go there have good intentions and many absolutely are doing the Lord’s work.
But what about the rest of us? They are killing babies down the street from our churches, and Christians just “praise and worship and pray” louder. Tell me: do you think God hears such prayers? They are teaching ‘transgenderism” as a normal, natural alternative lifestyle to your children and grandchildren, and most of us do nothing about it, for fear of being looked upon as “judgmental,” “offensive,” or “harsh.” They kicked God out of our public schools in 1962 and Christians did nothing. Now they are erasing and rewriting history. They are killing babies! And we know better, yet we remain silent, content, fat and happy inside our “Christian bubbles.”
If you want to talk about “harsh,” Jesus had some very harsh words for people like this. He did not show love to everybody. Matthew 15, “You hypocrites, rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying ‘this people honors Me with their lips but their heart is far from Me. In vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’”
Truly, Jesus had some very harsh words for the cowardly religious leaders of His day. He called them: “hypocrites,” “blind guides,” “fools,” “whitewashed tombs,” “serpents,” “brood of vipers,” and “liars.” In John 8, He told them, “You are of your father the devil.” It seems Jesus was not very “Christian” by today’s standards, was He? He also reacted with righteous anger when He found the temple had been turned into a den of thieves, making a whip, physically attacking the wicked ones and overturning tables. I doubt He would be very welcome in most of today’s churches.
So do you think He would just “be ok” with abortion? With a sodomite “pride” parade? With leading innocent little children astray with the lies of the devil, teaching them to question their very gender? Do you think He would be ok with people just going to church, listening to the sermon, babysitting kids in “Children’s Church,” serving as money collectors during the “offering time,” and never doing anything more? Never engaging the culture or questioning the lies of the wicked, evil liars who are leading our precious little ones to hell — or worse yet, killing them in cold blood before they are even born?!
Satan rejoices, no doubt. But what would Jesus do about all this? Would He be sitting and listening to endless sermons, raising His hands in so-called “praise and worship” while millions outside those four walls are perishing in their sinful delusions? Come on, folks! It’s time we pop the bubble.
There is a whole world of real Christianity going on outside the building where you go every weekend. You need to understand, you don’t go to Church, you are the Church — if you’re a true Christ follower.
I was just as guilty of living inside that Christian bubble. For years, I never knew, never realized, there is a whole world of real Christianity outside those four walls. There’s so much more to it than a weekly “service,” personal Bible study and personal prayer time. We are to the Salt of the Earth. The Light of the World. We absolutely are called to engage the culture, and there are many true Christians who are doing just that. Most likely you have no idea about this world, because your pastors forbid you to associate with such Christians, and certainly will never promote such “radical activism.”
Why? Because it takes courage. It takes thinking outside the box. Bottom line: it takes taking Jesus Christ at His Word, taking up our crosses daily and really — I mean really — following Him.
Do you want to be a part of this? Do you want the real deal? Or are you content just “playing church?” The day will come when the Righteous Judge will separate the sheep from the goats, placing the goats on His left and the sheep on His right. And the lukewarm — those happy and content inside their “Christian bubbles,” — He will vomit out of His mouth and say, “Depart from Me, you workers of iniquity. I never knew you.”
If you are ready to get serious about these issues and if you’re ready to meet like-minded people, I encourage you to join us, March 9th and 10th at the 2018 Wisconsin Christian News Ministry Expo and Conference in Marshfield, Wisconsin. All these issues and more will be discussed by some of the most notable leaders in the Christian world from around the nation. You will be educated, informed and equipped to have an IMPACT for Jesus in this lost, sad, sick world. If you don’t already know about this extremely vital Conference, I encourage you to call me for all the details. No matter where you live, anywhere in America, if you are serious about your faith, you need to be at this Conference. And you need to bring your children and grandchildren with you as well! I guarantee it will be life-changing. And if you actually act on what you learn there, God may yet have mercy and heal our land. Please don’t miss this opportunity. We may never get another one.
Saturday, March 30, 2019
"New Jerusalem some possible numbers" from march 4 2018
On mansions, streets, and levels:
On the levels I was thinking maybe the twelve foundations represent 12 levels one foundation per level. (in full disclosure I did see this somewhere on the internet and I think it makes sense as I was already wondering about multiple levels given the height of 1380 Miles) most seem to think it is 12 foundations on one level but that seems a bit odd and how would you know it was twelve foundations each with one type stone and not one foundation with 12 different stones??
As to mansions in the bible he mentions in John 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. Now some will correctly point out that mansions is the word abode which referred to any where you might live and often at that time was just a room in a house owned by someone else. Thus they try to reduce this to God giving you a room. Some even argue that a the father’s house is one gigantic house in the New Jerusalem and that since having houses inside a house makes no sense that we have rooms instead. BUT they both fail to translate the word for house in the fathers house is the word for dwelling. so they passage would look like this:In my Father's dwelling are many abodes: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. Well since his DWELLING is the New Jerusalem and the New Jerusalem is a CITY it makes perfect sense that the ABODES in that DWELLING would be HOUSES. Take this for example as a possibility:
1.75 billion kids raptured 1.70 billion kids raptured
2.50 billion kids aborted or miscarried 2.67 billion kids aborted or miscarried
34.32 billion dead since creation 33.10 billion dead since creation
1.00 billion tribulation saints 2.10 billion tribulation saints
0.85 billion Christians raptured 0.85 billion Christians raptured
2.50 billion kids aborted or miscarried 2.67 billion kids aborted or miscarried
34.32 billion dead since creation 33.10 billion dead since creation
1.00 billion tribulation saints 2.10 billion tribulation saints
0.85 billion Christians raptured 0.85 billion Christians raptured
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40.42 billion total population
with that population each person, given a 12 level NJ, could have 0.30 acres of land and with multiple people in a house you could have perhaps several acres per household. Like for me and the 18 boys God will give me to raise and love and care for in the NJ we would have a 5 acre estate although we could have unto 5.7 based on a 0.30 per person amount. Even just over 0.26 acres each, 11,464 ft2, could give you 54,369,825,281 people in it.
2.50 billion kids aborted or miscarried 2.50 billion kids aborted or miscarried
48.26 billion dead since creation 48.31 billion dead since creation
1.00 billion tribulation saints 0.85 billion tribulation saints
0.85 billion Christians raptured 1.00 billion Christians raptured
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54.36 billion total population
I use a public-private formula to distribute land:1st – 1,170,063,360 acres private/ 48,752,640 acres public = 96 to 4 ratio (76,176 mi2 public)(just under the size of the state of South Dakota) 2-12 – 1,194,439,680 acres private/ 24,376,320 acres public = 98 to 2 ratio (38,088 mi2)(between Maine+Kentucky) T12 – 14,308,899,840 private/ 316,892,160 public (495,144 mi2 just under the size of the nation of Chad) = 14,625,792,000 total. Public would be like parks, schools, shops, etc. anything not private houses and the land they are on. These numbers are for illustration purposes only! I am NOT trying to say how many people there ACTUALLY are in the NJ. I put that in because before I have had someone get quite upset at me for using numbers of people to describe the size of the NJ and this very issue of houses.
So you can see a bunch of people there and we know that over the years most people never made it past age 12 many never past age 8 so most of the people in heaven are children. That would go with the scripture "such is the kingdom of heaven". (yes I imagine it also is about being childlike in faith but it could have a dual meaning. It could also refer to children making up the majority of the population there.) (I image God would let them stay children as a great gift to them. I imagine that he would age babies and those under maybe 2 to various ages. I ADMIT I HAVE NO PROOF OF THIS AND CAN NOT PROVIDE ANY VERSES FOR THIS).
As far streets while the word in revelation is translated only as street in all other books it is plural and even as street with no s it can be plural. If I say “Independence is a wonderful town the street is made of asphalt and the sidewalk is made of concrete” you wouldn’t think I was talking about only ONE street or ONE sidewalk would you?? Of course not you would know I meant ALL the streets and ALL the sidewalks. The same could be said in this case.
About 'no more sea' and the oceans in the Eternal Earth:
As seen below in Richard C. Trench’s synonyms the word Thalassa used in the Revelation 21 passage is most often used of the sea as contrasted with the land i.e. the smaller seas, it is especially used to designate the Mediterranean and Red seas, where the word Pelagos is not used of such seas but only of the deep seas such as the Atlantic. So I would venture to say that the oceans will be in the eternal earth so the only question will the smaller seas still be there or not. Will only the Red or Mediterranean seas be removed?? Or given Israel is the location marker for the bible could the Levantine Sea be the only part of the Mediterranean be meant???
Also the sea is often symbolic of the heathen so it could be that there are no more unbelievers.
Emphasis Added in the below.
xiii. θάλασσα, πέλαγος.
The connexion of θάλασσα with the verb ταράσσειν, that it means properly the agitated or disturbed, finds favour with Curtius (p. 596) and with Port (Etym. Forsch. vol. ii. p. 56). Schmidt dissents (vol. 1. p. 642); and urges that the predominant impression which the sea makes on the beholder is not of unrest but of rest, of quietude and not of agitation; that we must look for the word’s primary meaning in quite another direction: θάλασσα, he says, ‘ist das Meer nach seiner natürlichen Beschaffenheit, als grosse Salzflut, und dem Sinne nach von dem poetischen ἅλςdurch nichts unterscheiden.’ It is according to him ‘the great salt flood.’ But not entering further into this question, it will be enough to say that, like the Latin ‘mare,’ it is the sea as contrasted with the land (Gen. 1:10; Matt. 23:15; Acts 4:24); or perhaps more strictly as contrasted with the shore (see Hayman’s Odyssey, vol. 1. p. xxxiii. Appendix). Πέλαγος, closely allied with πλάξ, πλατύς ‘plat,’ ‘plot,’ ‘flat,’ is the vast uninterrupted level and expanse of open water, the ‘altum mare,’1 as distinguished from those portions of it broken by islands, shut in by coasts and headlands (Thucydides, vi. 104; vii. 49; Plutarch, Timol. 8).2 The suggestion of breadth, and not depth, except as an accessory notion, and as that which will probably find place in this open sea, lies in the word; thus Sophocles (Oed. Col. 659): μακρὸν τὸ δεῦρο πέλαγος, οὐδὲ πλώσιιμον: so too the murmuring Israelites (Philo, Vit. Mos. 35) liken to a πέλαγος the illimitable sand-flats of the desert; and in Herodotus (ii. 92) the Nile overflowing Egypt is said πελαγίζειν τὰ πεδία, which yet it only covers to the depth of a few feet; cf. ii. 97. A passage in the Timoeus of Plato (25 a, b) illustrates well the distinction between the words, where the title of πέλαγος is refused to the Mediterranean Sea: which is but a harbour, with the narrow entrance between the Pillars of Hercules for its mouth; while only the great Atlantic Ocean beyond can be acknowledged as ἀληθινὸς πόντος, πέλαγος ὄντως. Compare Aristotle, De Mun. 3; Meteorol. ii. 1: ῥέουσα δ᾽ ἡ θάλαττα φαίνεται κατὰ τὰς στενότητας [the Straits of Gibraltar], εἴπου διὰ περιιέχουσαν γῆν εἰς μικρὸν ἐκ μεγάλου συνάγεται πέλαγος.
It might seem as if this distinction did not hold good on one of the two occasions upon which πέλαγος occurs in the N. T., namely Matt. 18:6: “It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea” (καὶ καταποντισθῇ ἐν τῷ πελάγει τῆς θαλάσσης). But the sense of depth, which undoubtedly the passage requires, is here to be looked for in the καταποντισθῇ:—πόντος (not in the N. T.), being connected with βάθος, βυθός (Exod. 15:5), βένθος, perhaps the same word as this last,Etym. Note. 9 and implying the sea in its perpendicular depth, as πέλαγος (==‘maris aequor’), the same in its horizontal dimensions and extent. Compare Döderlein, Lat. Syn. vol. iv. p. 75.
Paul Wilson
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