Impeachment Farce Two Thoughts

With the whole impeachment farce continuing to go I am wondering two things: 1) is this like when God hardened Pharaoh's heart leading to the freedom of the Israelites which could mean a YUGE reelection for trump and maybe a rebirth a freedom in the states OR 2) could this be God is angry because we have not made progress in taking back America from the anti-christian forces and he is using this farce to gin up the DEMS base to deliver them the white house and bring persecution upon us???

Face it we BEGGED God for a reprieve we Prayed for Trump to be elected instead of Hilary because we KNEW what her presidency would do to people of faith. I too voted for him BUT I warned that if we don't use this reprieve wisely if we just roll over and say wake me in 4 years to reelect him it would have been better to have had Hilary elected and get our destruction over with then to have gotten a reprieve through Trump and wasted it. Wasting a reprieve will bring greater judgment than if we had not had one at all.

One worrying sign is Pete Buttigieg is gaining in Iowa. A homosexual president would be a DISASTER for Christians. Some on the left seem ready to anoint him the next Liberal Messiah (Obama being the last. he was going to be the first post-racial president. how did that work out?). And seeing how we keep going farther and farther down the sodomite road a homosexual president would be a fitting Judgment! Face it the culture has continued DOWNward during Trump's presidency, we are not turning the tide, we are not regaining lost ground, the enemy is not retreating.

As I feared we are squandering our opportunity. We are too comfortable. Maybe it is time the Western church, especially in America, found out what the early church knew all too well: the church grows best in pain. That persecution is the best fertilizer. The Asian, especially the Chinese, Church is the most persecuted on earth, and one of the fastest growing. I am prepared to be physically crucified for my faith, a very painful death, are you?? I am prepare to be hated, to be beaten, to be raped, and humiliated as well. I will suffer for my Lord! In those famous words: Here I stand I can do no other!

"What Would Have to Happen for a Pretrib Revival in America and Why It Won't Happen" from Oct 12th 2016

Many people talk of a great revival about to hit the US that would eliminate the need for judgment. For such a revive our part of the operation would be huge more like a world war than anything else. Yes God could simply do it all but he always seems to have something he wants his people to do to participate.

It would take 3 phases to do the“Great Awakening”: Phase I we would have to go to the members of the conservative side of the church and get them to believe in the fundamentals of the faith as not all on the conservative or religious right side of the church believe in the fundamentals. We have many Laodiceans in our churches who while not rejecting Jesus are also not accepting him. we in Phase I would need to get them on fire for the church and believing the fundamentals. This is a bit of a task but of the 3 phases this is the easiest.

Phase II would begin afterward which is going to the Liberal/progressive side of the church (about 50% or so) and getting them to believe the fundamentals of the faith. This is much harder as many on that side of the church don’t believe the bible as accurate and some reject Jesus as God and only accept the father partially and some are functionally atheists while being in the church and calling themselves Christian. This side of the church allows those against God to claim fundamentalist are the ones in error. As such this Phase is MUCH harder to accomplish as you not only have to teach them the truth you have to refute their lies about scripture and God. As tough as this is since they often use scripture, though out of context and in twisted ways, to justify themselves they hold it in high esteem so using scripture can be an avenue to conversion.

Phase III is last and is taking on the unbelievers in positions of influence such as media, entertainment, SCHOOLS, and similar places. This will be the hardest Phase as they completely reject the Bible and don’t hold it in esteem, and reject God. They are also a diverse group not just atheists but people of all non Judeo-Christian religions and some compromised Jews. Since they are in positions of influence especially over young people this is a critical Phase. Stopping after phase II would only allow a brief revival since the next generation would be in the enemy's clutches. Phase III MUST be accomplished for a Great Awakening. Because they are so entrenched in the places this Phase will take a long time. The biggest obstacle is keeping our faith while entering those areas while trying to convert the heathen in them. That is a tough thing as many people today enter these places as Christians and after a few years of being made over they are no longer for Christ. Many people send the kids to government aka public schools and when the kids emerge after 13 years of indoctrination they find they are no longer Christian. The Biggest part of this Phase is not as much conversion as many in these fields have made their choice but displacement. We must try to convert where we can and by shear numbers displace the ones we can’t.

This is WAR and fighting it take a large force. Think of the war as similar to the trench warfare of WWI. for some of these thing we would need a D-day style offensive. A very large force focused on one area, winning that area, and then moving on while keeping the ground we just gained. We are talking door to door, street to street, neighborhood to neighborhood, city section by city section. We would need to deal with denominational differences at this point just the fundamental. But as you can see this is aMONUMENTALtask one I feel we are not capable of at this point. Decades ago maybe but not now. We simply don’t have the numbers to pull off such an offensive time and time again (every city and every state of the union). Remember too that we wouldn’t just be facing Christians who believe otherwise than us but satan would not be happy with us starting a offensive like this and would use his operatives at ALL levels of society to fight against us making this a VERY PROLONGEDwar that I fear too many Christians would not have either the stomach for or the ability to commit too. Some Christians while being true fundamental believers are weak and know they are weak and would not be able to withstand prolonged warfare.

There is however hope. I feel that a large dose of judgment from God on America would wake up the Laodiceans and some others (Thyatirans, Sardisians, and others) and they would start taking back whatever remains of this nation. They would be able to fight each phase. Much would depend on their size and the size of the portion of the remaining nation they are in. Mostly likely judgment will have broken the USA in todozens to hundreds of smaller nations(God will probably use Russia and nuclear weapons and most likely a EMP meaning no more media distractions so Phase 3 would become more localized. But it would mean no power at all so people will be relying on each other more giving a opportunity for discussion with them). With a smaller nation a smaller group of on fire fundamental Christians could take back that nation. With larger nations it would take a larger force. Also they would have to be in communication with God to know when the nation they are in is beyond hope so they can leave it BEFORE final judgment (remember how Lot’s wife looked back and was turned to a pillar of salt [killed] because basically she never left the city as her heart was still there. So too will Christians in these areas be killed by the judgment if they stay after God tells them to leave).

Think of ancient Israel. Even as a divided kingdom they are still all Israel the first big Judgment on the US would be like the Assyrian judgment as it would take away part of the nation, again most likely this judgment will involve nuclear weapons which of course would make parts of the nation uninhabitable, and the judgment on the new nations that refuse to come to God would be the Babylonian judgment completely destroying them (till the MK starts).

Electing Trump, who is MUCH better the Hillary, wouldn’t be enough. That is trying to solve a spiritual problem with a political solution. America has a Spiritual Disease are economic, and social and political problems are mere SYMPTOMS of the disease and treating the symptom doesn’t fight the disease. It would be like treating a headache caused by a brain tumor. Giving an aspirin to the patient may help the headache but does NOTHING for the tumor.

Only God’s judgment is strong enough to wake up the sleeping church and the undecided among them. Think the church as sleeping beauty and only God’s kiss of judgment is able to awaken her.

Paul

Let's Face It WE Lost America from feb 2 2014

"Let's Face It WE Lost America"

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It wasn’t the GOP, it wasn’t conservatives, it was the church that lost America. If we had been doing our job this nation would not have declined spiritually and it is that SPIRITUAL decline that has caused the social and political declines. Our problem was trying to solve the problem in the voting booth or on CNN or FOX NEWS instead of in the PEWS! WE blame the Hippies, the Left, satan, and a myriad of other causes but fail to recognize OUR part in it all.

 

We become complacent mistaking the nation and the church as on and the same and since the gates of hell cannot prevail against the church we assumed they could not prevail against America since she WAS the church. We allowed, in the late 19th century, satan to get into  the seminaries and into law schools and change how the bible was taught and how the constitution was interpreted and how laws were interpreted. Like Sgt. Schultz we saw “Nothing Nothing”. Then in the beginning of the 20th century we let satan gain control of schools with the creation of Government, “public”, schools. We said “Nothing Nothing”. We allowed evolution to be taught as fact in those schools thus eliminating creation. We did “Nothing Nothing”. We allowed the “finding” of separation of church and state being God’s removal from government influence. We did “Nothing Nothing”. Then finally they took out bible reading and prayer in those public schools. We were finally appalled. But by that time the enemy had 60+ years head start on us. I don’t think we really woke up till we saw the hippie counterculture wasn’t just a fad but was staying around and becoming a force to be reckoned with and when a “right to murder” was invented in the supreme court. We were, as the saying goes, “mad as hell”. Our answer – the moral majority. Yes we decided to fight this POLITICALLY. We felt that if we got the right politicians in to office we would reverse course and return America to the shores of glory. We have been trying that formula for 30+ years and rather than returning to the shores of glory we are further in the swamp of sin. Unfortunately we didn't quite realize the true reason for the decline – US! Like ancient Israel we went through all the motions but we weren’t close to God we had been drifting from him but we were blinded by America’s success to see it. Also like ancient Israel we didn’t respond correctly when small problems came our way so larger ones were sent. By the time we decided to respond we were facing a well entrenched foe. However all is possible with God. But rather than a national turn to God we sought help from man.  We thought this was a political and social problem and required a political and social solution. We has some success in the 80’ so we thought we were right in our assessment of the nature of the problem and the solution to it. But since we did not go to god on our knees and ask HIM to take care of the problem it returned with a vengeance! He allowed increasingly offensive things to happen to try and get us to turn to HIM for a solution to have HIM solve the problem.

 

But like bad gamblers we just “doubled down” on our belief in a political solution. Then came 9/11. For the first time in a while MANY went to church. We had a opportunity a great chance, after such horror, to bring the nation back to God. How Great of him to give us this after such disobedience and slacking off. But we did little more than off fluffy sermons and hold people saying “there there, there there”. We then sought to understand them enemy to find our “common ground” so we could appease satan, using his muslim followers, and thus make it so he wont hurt us any more. We now know the fate of America Just as the southern kingdom of Judah and the northern kingdom of Israel before it we too will face destruction. Some wont even admit that. “We have a better covenant than Israel so we can’t be destroyed” they say. The CHURCH has a better covenant but as we failed to learn the church is NOT America! America has NO covenant with God. The mayflower compact, some like to point to as a covenant, was MAN initiated NOT God initiated and there is NO record of God AGREEING to that compact/covenant. If he didn’t agree to it he is not bound by it. You can’t hold a person to the terms of a contract they didn’t sign. While we can not stop this from happening we can explain it to people and save as many as we can. 

 

Politics isn’t the answer. Social programs isn’t the answer. Being “purpose driven” isn't the answer. Chrislam certainly isn’t the answer. I doesn’t matter who the next president is or if we even have a next one what matters is are we right with God. No longer is it a question for the American church she WILL receive what is due her. It is however a question for each American Christian to ask. While I am sure this message is widely unpopular Jeremiah's message was as well when he told of the coming judgment on Judah. Unpopularity will not stop God from his business. Some say they have dreams of America Gloriously triumphing and being a beacon of Godliness in the soon future. Remember in Jeremiah's day they had dreams of imminent rescue But God told Jeremiah they cause themselves to have those dreams. People can cause themselves to dream pleasant and affirming dreams that they will attribute to God but Come from their own minds or worse from satan. Satan is a great faker he can appear as a angel of light and can give most convincing dream to those who wish to see what he wishes to show. He doesn’t always send negative bad dream to you he can send wonderful pleasant ones too. Even when the dream seems to glorify God when it doesn’t come true it detracts from God. Satan can quote scripture like a pro to try and justify his position so why would he not send a dream that on it’s surface glorifies God but he knows in the long run it will make God look bad to some listening to a description of it. You may not be who he is after it is someone who will read about or listen to you talk about you r dream that he is wanting to get you are simply a means of conveyance a way to get someone to doubt in God and look to satan no matter what name they call him.

 

Yes we are in the end times but that doesn’t excuse our lack of action. That it is the times we live in it NO excuse for dereliction of duty. Untill we admit OUR role in what has happened to this once great and Godly nation we can never expect to be able to help others understand how this nation fell from Grace and what is coming to America as a result of her heap of sins that stinks up to heaven. Let us seek a spiritual solution for our individual problems. We can’t save the nation but we can still make sure our election is sure. We can ensure there is a place saved for us in the New Jerusalem. 

 

Paul

response to CultureWatch article "On Dealing With Argumentative and Fuzzy-Thinking Christians" from feb 19 2019

https://billmuehlenberg.com/2019/02/18/on-dealing-with-argumentative-and-fuzzy-thinking-christians/

sorry I didn't reply earlier my back was acting up and I had to limit my time on the computer in favor of heat on my back.

I have seen one thing used over and over by these christians it is in Matthew about pulling the plank out of your eye before helping with the speck in someone else's. I alway encounter that when trying to help people with things. I don't think i have had a situation where it was quoted to me where they weren't the ones with the planks but they are the super spiritual types so they could have a whole forrest in their eye and consider their vision 20/20! many accuse me of being argumentative simply because I want accept what they say without proof. they have their pet theories and ideas and insist they it is truth but can't point to one verse to prove it is truth and get upset when you expose that. they are so used to being surrounded by yes men type christians that they never have to explain their point by pointing to scripture. 

Too many leaders have these yes men around them (more like butt kissers) and so they get puffed up and never exposed to the truth and when someone comes along and doesn't kiss their bottom but asks for scriptural proof they lash out and get angry at them and others that follow that leader do as well. the worst is when the subject is not concrete but open to some interpretation, the Millennial Kingdom or New Jerusalem for example, they will get mad at you even ban you for having a differing opinion and insisting it is just as legitimate as their.

The collar goes to too many pastors heads and they are unwilling to reevaluate something they believe because they are a pastor. add to that them being in the ministry several decades and it can be very hard to reason with them. If you are never challenged even if you are right you won't grow and will come to believe things that aren't true because everyone just agrees with you on everything. too many christians simply aren't challenged. 

"“No! The church must preach the gospel first and foremost! Then this problem would take care of itself.”"

this has been the churches approach since at least the turn of the 20th century. the problem has only gotten worse. but like most who refuse to admit error those who espouse this keep doubling down. while the gates of hell could not prevail against the church she could defeat herself. I believe it was Lincoln who said America could never be defeated from with out only from within and the same is true of the church satan could never take her down with a frontal assault but through the introduction of lies rumors and backbiting could render her impotent. he had to enter the back door to start with to begin his long plan but in way too many churches today he enters the front door and has a reserved pew right under the pulpit. he know he will he nothing offensive. he might even get an ovation.

"why kids are leaving the church " from jan 29 2019

We let our enemy "educate" our kids then find out they don't like church or God or anything good. they spend on average 17 TIMES more time in secular humanist education each week then in church and Sunday school. With so much more humanism being forced down their throats OF COURSE they are going to leave! After 13 years of education they will have had almost 16,400 hours of secular humanism in public schools and just over 1350 of christian education in Sunday school and church (they get some christian ed during the summer with no humanist so over all the number is just over 12 times compared to the 17 each week during the school year). 

Add to this so many churches focusing on silly rhyming nonsense songs and small matters even in the teenage level no wonder they leave. A teenager should not be getting the MILK of the word still but in too many churches they are. How many of you would still breastfeed your 13, 15 or 17 year old son or daughter???  Hopefully none yet that is basically the church's approach to the word for the young breastfeeding them the milk of the word when they should have been put on meat long ago! And when we aren't offering meat guess who is?? satan! His meat is bad meat BUT it IS meat and if WE can't recognize that they are ready for it they will go to HIM for it. We need to stop thinking they are too young to handle ANY truths till they are ready for college and start teaching them truth while in pre school. Not heavy theological truth but bit sized truth and increase the portion as they age. you won't feed a whole thanksgiving dinner to a child just weened of breast milk would you?? No you start with small amounts of real food and add as they can in take more. In the same way you don't hit them with heavy truth in preschool you give them small truth and build upon them increasing the amount you give as they age. 

By 12-14 a child should be able to make a KNOWLEDGABLE decision for christ. I say knowledgable because ones made too early 2-6 are not like real decisions as they don't possess the capacity to make such decisions or the knowledge to base such decisions on. (probably they say this either because it will make mommy and daddy happy or have heard it said some place and say it not knowing what it means. but how many figure their child is now christian and I dont need to do anything for them to be saved?? only to see the walk away in high school of after a semester or two of college) By 12-14 they have should have both provided you have been teaching the truth not nonsense songs. (i don't want to be from babylon because they babble on and on and on, or pharisees aren't fair and sadducees are sad) We can teach songs that actually teach them and are fun.

response to CultureWatch article "The Battle for Religious Freedom in Australia" from dec 17 2018

https://billmuehlenberg.com/2018/12/17/the-battle-for-religious-freedom-in-australia/

Part of the problem has always been, at least in the past 100 so years, we underestimate satan's power. we seem to think he is a toothless tiger 'he will gum you but he can't hurt you'. It is like going to war assuming your enemy has 1 or 2 battalions so you send 3 or 4 battalions to overwhelm him then when you get there you find he has 3 or 4 DIVISIONS and YOU are the one overwhelmed! I actually had a christian tell me satan's power is just God's power shining through satan. Many others just out right deny he has any power or that old chestnut of 'are you saying he is more powerful than God?' as a way of shutting down the conversation and not having to actually acknowledge satan has power. (for the record NO I am not saying he is more powerful than God but he IS MUCH MORE powerful than any mere man.) Satan was the anointed cherub the most powerful of all angels prior to he fall and the is no indication of he losing any amount of that power when he fell. He is also the god of the world. Since we are constantly underestimating our enemy and his strength is it any wonder we keep getting our butts kicked by him???

Too many christians are naive and think people wouldn't lie or use deception to get something so when homosexuals say 'we wouldn't use these laws against you' and 'we aren't trying to criminalize the bible' too many believe them. I think so of that is the 'I wouldn't do that so they wouldn't do that either' or 'I am a good judge of character' and 'I would know if they were lying to me'. I think we want so bad to believe the best in people we allow ourselves to dismiss anything contrary to that. we believe people are basically good. We believe being kind and nice to people will open doors (if he sees how nice christians are he will want to be one of us) and plant seeds (maybe I didn't reach him but hims seeing what a nice loving person I am will surely work on him and the next person will bring him to christ). we have become the 'barney the purple dinosaur' (I love you, you love me) version of christianity. Also the ren and stimpy version (happy happy joy joy). We don't act in a way that commands respect. You can't win through weakness and you can't show people a worthless religion and expect converts. Churchianity is worthless and that is what too many churches are the church of. As a result we are laughed at and not seen as serious. If we don't believe what the bible say why should anyone else. Jesus and the apostles didn't change the world by loving it with a warm and fuzzy love the makes you feel good but does NOTHING for you.

We put ourselves in this position by compromise Only with God's help can we get out of it by learning you CAN'T compromise with evil. Satan only compromises or seeks coexistence until he can dominate. Only a fool takes satan at his word when he promises too just exist peacefully along side you and not cause you any problems. Although when he does advertise what he is going to do only a fool wouldn't believe him. If we had taken Mein Kampf seriously maybe the holocaust wouldn't have happened. Homosexuals and others told us what they were going to do we just didn't believe them. big mistake.

response to CultureWatch article "You WILL Be Made to Worship at the Altar of the Homosexual Deity" from dec 9 2018

https://billmuehlenberg.com/2018/12/09/you-will-be-made-to-worship-at-the-altar-of-the-homosexual-deity/

biggest problem is most christians haven't the stomach for this war. It means going against family friends co workers. It mean people will hate you. we forget a man greatest enemies will be among his own family and that the world hated him so it will hate us as a servant is not above his master. too many want to be liked by the world so they don't fight even when the have that inner feeling that something isn't right. they want to hear from the world "well done thou good and noble christian". they have bought into the Jesus as a nice guy idea. Jesus was everyones buddy (CCM help this assumption. I could say a lot about CCM but that might cause some problems as I don't know what you and people who come here think about CCM). since they don't even know HIS life they can't emulate him. How can one be ChristLIKE when one doesn't act LIKE Christ. They haven't the slightest idea how Christ acted even WHO he was and IS! 

Some have embarrassing skeletons in the closets and even though they have repented and Jesus has forgiven them the wold will not and will use those skeletons to demean and destroy them. Your past life before christ, or before you strengthen your faith for those who were nominal christians, can come back to hurt or neuter your witness. This should be a warning to some who think they can sin now and come to Christ later. Yes they can of course but it comes with a cost. 

Some can't really get out and we write emails to be posted on boards but often feel as though no-one listens. I have been called a babe in christ and a scriptural child by some, one who thinks the best thing to do is cheer on the homosexuals etc.[even saying at them admitting gay scouts 'go homos go'] destroying society because it will 'hasten the lords return', other just stop taking to me or even belittle me or ban be from their forum. For a person who is always a bit on the depressed side it is hard to deal with. I just sometimes wonder with no-one at the boards I post to listening is it worth it. It isn't easy to come up with things to post it can take hours to type and get thoughts together and crickets is all i get. 

Some are so concerned with the rapture they won't talk about anything else. they still predict the date even thought they haven been right in the 20 years they have been trying. in America Democrats, RINO's and the elite live in their own little bubbles and thus didn't see 2016 election results coming. the bubble acts as a echo chamber that keeps repeating the same thing and they never hear anything else and never get their opinion or so call facts [about global warming and other beliefs of theirs] challenged so when something big happens different than what they thought would happen they are dumb founded and immediately go to collusion etc because everyone they know thinks like them and they can't imagine anyones else exists. 

Too many christians also have a bubble and echo chamber they are in they only have people around them who talk and think like them and they are not challenged and so they stay in the same old incorrect beliefs because of it and when someone challenges them trying to get them to true faith they attack and ban because they are uncomfortable not having everything they believe affirmed. I think they are convicted by the Holy Spirit and don't like it and rather than respond by listening to the Spirit and changing they essentially kill the messenger to avoid hearing the message. Much in the way many sinners react to being convicted by the Spirit. How many homosexuals think if we silence the christians then we won't get that feeling inside of us that makes us feel bad like we are doing something wrong??? How many CINO's (Christian In Name Only) go along with and embolden them in that belief??? They are called 'allies' but being an ally of satan is nothing to brag about. 

World wide there are 2 1/3 Billion who call themselves christian I doubt that much more than a THIRD actually are. In America I doubt more than 10% actually are christian. I don't know much about the stat e of the church down under but I know worldwide the largest numbers in christianity are in Asia, Middle East and Africa where there is persecution of christians and being faithful will cost you something. They wouldn't die for something they didn't truly believe in. How many who call themselves christian in the west would hold on to their faith when facing crucifixion?? (something that is returning in the ME.) Or beheading??? I think too many would save their lives only to lose their souls. {though I am sure some feel they would just explain to Christ they did it for him so they could be a live witness secretly testifying to people about him. people seem to think they can pull one over on Jesus } I for one would gladly hang from a cross even here in the US of A than stay alive but in up in hell.

I wish sometimes that at least once a pastor could look out into the congregation and through divine intervention SEE how many in his flock are TRULY saved and how many are headed to hell. (like green glow for saved - red for unsaved) It would probably scare a lot of ministers out there see what a, excuse my french, piss poor job they are doing. Especially if they could look at themselves and see where they are headed! I wish sometimes ordinary christians could see the destinies of those around them (loved ones [especially children and spouse], friends, fellow congregants, co-workers, etc.) just once in their lives it too might, pardon my french again, shock the hell out of them. Even seeing their own fate might be quite the eye opener! 

How many fewer snowflakes would we have today if we, the country and the world, had raised our children in a godly manner not a world pleasing manner. We dropped the ball several time between the late 19th century and today now if we can only find it and pick it up again. But how many people know we have too??

orgot to mention one time I had thought about going to a college campus and setting up a booth for people too burn a pinch of incense to the rainbow flag and see how many supposed christians would. (and see if they would catch the symbolism in the act) but I am sure today I would get run off and possibly beaten up by the "tolerance" brigade. 

Not only do they want people to see them as the real family values people but also that they, and the heterosexual allies, are the REAL christians. I am surprised they haven't turned Josephs coat of many colors into the worlds first PRIDE coat. they are already saying Jesus was gay especially in the situation of  'the disciple he loved'. they won't stop till every positive person in history was really secretly gay and that homosexuality was the true driving force behind the advancement of humanity. God Help Us All!